At most events I've attended, most of the fliers depend on getting help from a fellow compeditor to "call" for them. In most cases we work out some common terminology which works for us although in some cases it's a compromise which requires additional consintration while flying the sequense. The caller may not be calling the sequense the way you'r use to hearing it and this can sometimes causing confusion and distraction.
I would like to see IMAC publish a calling sequence that can be used as a standard for "known" sequenses for each class.
I'm sure there would be differances in oppinions with respect to how each person would describe the sequense, but I'm not sure it would matter as long as everyone understood the common or standard description.

Good Morning Judges.
Pilots name is ???????
Pilot will be flying from Left to Right

Basic

Pilot Ready?
Judges Ready?
In the Box!

First maneuver,

Aileron Roll, next

Hammer Head, Pull into Vertical uplIne, Hammer Top, Establish vertical down line, Pull to upright exit. next

Reverse Teardrop, Pull to Forty-Five upline, Pull five-eights loop to a vertical downline, Pull to upright exit, next

Humpty Bump, Pull to vertical upline, Pull half loop over the top to vertical downline, center half roll, Pull to upright exit. next

Inside Loop, Pull inside loop back around to level. next

Sharks Tooth, Pull to a vertical upline, Pull back to an inverted forty-five center half roll to upright, Pull to upright exit. next

Half Reverse Cuban, Pull to a forty-five upline, center half roll to inverted, Pull five-eights loop around to an upright exit. next

Reverse Sharks Tooth, Pull to a forty-five upline, center half roll to inverted, Pull to a vertical downline, Pull to an upright exit. next

Immelmann, Pull a half inside loop with a half roll on exit, exiting upright. next

One and a Half Positive Spin, wait for the stall then one and a half spins see a the canopy establish a vertical downline, Pull to an upright exit.

End of Sequence!

Nice going Kent.

I have my two sequence sheets laminated into a front and back so all my caller has to do is flip the page. I also have the sequence written out, numbered and with a name written so I can understand it.

A caller should be able to keep up with the sequence/airplane so as not to get behind or ahead of the pilot!!

Bobby

Great Job Kent, Don't get so relaxed with one caller no one else can call for you. During a contest I usually end up with at least 3 different callers and I learn something from each of them.

That's perfect Kent. Can you give me one for Sportsman?

Good Morning Judges.
Pilots name is ???????
Pilot will be flying from Left to Right

Sportsman

Pilot Ready?
Judges Ready?
In The Box!

First Maneuver,

Goldfish, Pull to a forty-five upline, Center half roll, Pull three quarter loop around to a forty-five upline, center a two of a four point roll to inverted, Pull to an inverted exit. Next

Split Ess, From inverted pull half inside loop down with a full roll on exit. Next

Forty-Five Hammer Head, From upright pull forty-five upline, Pull to vertical upline, Hammer top, establish vertical downline, Center a full roll, Pull to upright exit. Next

Vertical Up Line,(carry it tall to set up for a spin) Pull to vertical upline, Center two of a four point roll, Push to an upright exit. Next

One Positive Spin, wait for the stall then one turn spin see the belly, establish a vertical downline, Pull to an upright exit. Next

Humpty Bump, (going outbound) Pull vertical upline, Center two of a eight point roll left, Pull half loop over the top to vertical downline, center a three quarter roll Left. Pull to an upright exit. Next

Half Reverse Cuban, Pull to a forty-five upline, Center a two of four point roll to inverted, Pull a five-eights inside loop with a half roll to inverted on exit. Next

Outside Inside Loop, From inverted, Push a outside loop with a half roll on top then pull around to an upright exit. Next

Immelmann, Full roll on entry then pull half inside loop with a half roll to upright on exit. Next

Down Reverse Shark, Push to forty-five downline, Center positive snap, Pull to a vertical upline, Push to a upright exit.

End of sequence.

Kent

Would you mind if I use these in the IMAC Lite application?

Posted By Bill James on 22 Mar 2011 20:01
Kent

Would you mind if I use these in the IMAC Lite application?

Help yourself Bill. Hope all is well!

Kp

Cool, thanks, I'll get them into the next release, tonight

Things are as good as they can be...Kinda stuck at home when I'm not at work so I started developing applications for Apple to keep from going insane, I may even get to fly now and then

I just created PDF files for the descriptions Kent wrote up

See about 10 posts below for the Advanced and Unlimited sequences

These are now included in the next release of the IMAC Lite App for Apple.

hey kent, how about the 2011 advanced while you are at it, my dad would love it. He said you have alot of time on your hands?????

Kent, Thank you for the Sportsman sequense and Bill for the files. It occured to me, as I'm reading through the sequense, that it may be easier for me to use this for judging instead of or along with the normal sequense sheet. I can't be sure until I try it.
But in any event, I will use this to fly the sequense myself and use it when calling for someone else.
Would I be pushing my luck to ask you to write up a call sheet for the other classes? Also, I wonder if the Web Master would make them available as a printout along with the standard sequense sheet.
Thanks again, Steve

Posted By Steve Stanton on 23 Mar 2011 4:18
Kent, Thank you for the Sportsman sequense and Bill for the files. It occured to me, as I'm reading through the sequense, that it may be easier for me to use this for judging instead of or along with the normal sequense sheet.

I'm assuming that you are saying you would use the written descriptions when you are calling for the judges as there is no way someone would be able to read descriptions and watch an airplane in the sequence to be fairly judged.

Thanks for writing these out Kent. I had already done a similar description but put it on the sequence sheet for my caller. I'm trying to help him learn Arresti, not avoid it

For me, and from others I've talked to, calling is best when the caller and the pilot have worked out what works best for them. Some like lots of direction during the sequence, some not so much. My personal preference is to have a caller that is familiar with the judging criteria and can help me spot the 45 degree line, the midpoint, and the circle, and can remind me when radii need to match (family of loops, connected lines). The more time we all spend learning Arresti and the associated judging criteria, the better we will all fare.

Looking forward to a good crowd at the lower region Judging School in April! See Y'all There!

Brad

when radii need to match (family of loops, connected lines)

If you are referring to family 1, combinations of lines.. the radii do not need match.

Hey Curtis,

Hows it going,

I think what Steve may be referring to is something I did for the 2009 and 2010 seasons. I had created judging sheets for all sequences that included the graphics for each maneuver, a description similar to what Kent is doing and a box to write the score in. I have not done them this year due to time constraints between family, work and the IMAC Lite apps

During the early part of the season, it was a benefit to the judges as they could sit in the chair before the start and read the sheet and get a very quick overview of what was going to happen. Even someone that was not familiar with the sequence was able to sit and read them before hand and be able to judge it. These were hugely popular in the NE region.

While it is the responsibility of each of us to know and understand the rules and how they pertain to judging and how we fly each sequence, you and I and everyone else knows that every little bit helps.

Now, if Kent or someone else wants to write up the rest of the sequences and post it here or send me the files, I'll convert them to PDF, post them here and create the judging sheets for all to use.

The longest part of all of that is writing them up, I can create them in less than five minutes each since I already have the judging sheet template already made and I can use all the graphics from the "Caller Mode" that is already in the Apps.

In any case, the write-ups will make it into the IMAC Lite app, yes, both the Apple and Android versions.

Posted By Curtis Cozier on 23 Mar 2011 6:43

when radii need to match (family of loops, connected lines)

If you are referring to family 1, combinations of lines.. the radii do not need match.

Yep, Curtis is correct, and what I am about to say is not the correct thing to do.

What I do is try to make all the radii the same.

Again, I cannot stress enough that we all should know when the radii need to be the same and when they do not and I do know the differences, but you will run into judges that do not know or assume they all must be the same, so to me, it's best to take that into account.

I have been dinged in the past for not making radii the same when it is not required to, that is why I do it that way.

Also, don't forget Tony B and Bill L took Kent and Ty's excellent judging cheat sheets and added to them in 2009 and I believe it does say in it when they do need to match. I'm sure they need updated by now but I do have them if someone wants them

Good Morning Judges.
Pilots name is ???????
Pilot will be flying from Left to Right

Intermediate

Pilot Ready?
Judges Ready?

In the Box!

First Maneuver,

Sharks Tooth, Pull Vertical, Center Half roll, Pull to an Inverted Forty-Five, Center Negative Snap, Push to an Inverted Exit, Next

Hammer Head, Push to Vertical Upline, Center Two Half Rolls, Hammer, Establish Vertical Downline, Center Two of a Four Point Roll, Pull to an Upright Exit, Next

Reverse Teardrop, Pull to a Forty-Five, Center a Half Roll Opposite Full Roll, Push Five Eights Loop to a Vertical Downline, Center a Half Roll, Pull to an Upright Exit, Next

Immelmann, (finish high for a spin) Positive Snap on Entry, Pull Half Inside Loop with a Four of an Eight Point Roll on Exit, Next

One and Three Quarter Positive Spin/Opposite Half Roll,(exiting outbound) Wait for Stall Then Spin Right One and Three Quarters (see belly) Opposite Half Roll, Push to Exit Cross Box, Next

Cross Box Humpty Bump, Push to a Vertical Upline, Center Full Roll, Push Half Loop Over Top, Center a Three of a Four Point Roll Left, Pull to an Upright Exit, Next

Reverse Sharks Tooth, Pull to a Forty-Five , Center One Full Roll Opposite Half Roll, Pull to a Vertical Downline Center Positive Snap, Pull to an Upright Exit, Next

Inside/Outside Loop, Inside/outside Loop with a Half Roll on Top, Push around to an Inverted Exit, Next

Half Reverse Cuban with a Two of a Four Point Roll on Entry, From Inverted/Two of a Four Point Roll to Upright then Pull Five-Eights Inside Loop to an Inverted Forty-Five Center One and One Half Continuous Rolls to Upright, Pull to an Upright Exit, Next

Ninety Degree Turn with One Roll to the Inside

End of Sequence.

anyone can use these and or modify to their liking.. have at it.

Kp

Kent,

Thanks, I'll wait until they are all done and create score sheets using them. Also, I noticed you took the time to write out the steps for the Score program. By chance, do you have that in a document you can email to me. If not, I can get it from the website. I'd like to add it to the tips and tricks in the Apps

If you do, I'll PM you the email addy.

Curtis, You are correct. One could not read and watch the flier at the same time. For me personally, I would like to try a closed (ear bud) audio system with a manual "prompt" capability. Maybe it's a little far out but I need all the help I can get. My greatest concern when judging is that I will miss an incorrect rotation or required points in a roll. For me at least, it's a lot to keep track of.
Thanks for everyones input on this.
Steve

Posted By Steve Stanton on 23 Mar 2011 11:14
Curtis, You are correct. One could not read and watch the flier at the same time. For me personally, I would like to try a closed (ear bud) audio system with a manual "prompt" capability. Maybe it's a little far out but I need all the help I can get. My greatest concern when judging is that I will miss an incorrect rotation or required points in a roll. For me at least, it's a lot to keep track of.
Thanks for everyones input on this.
Steve

Hi Steve... That probably would give you a hard time as a judge to give a proper sound score...

It takes time....but sitting in the chair as a scribe is one of the best methods of coming up to speed.

Thanks Kent for undertaking the task of the write-ups...
Wayne

Thanks for putting these together. I printed them out today, because I think it's important to have your sequence called consistently...if you're like me and have a hard time memorizing the entire sequence(s), at least.

Thanks Wayne, that's a thought. How about one ear bud. Or everyone would just get a great sound score:: I'm trying to get a smiley face in here but can't get it to work.
Steve

Ok, Kent will call for everyone when he goes to a contest

I was referring to family 3,

8.3. Family 3: Combinations of Lines. For all the figures in Family
3, the transition from level flight to a 45 degree line should be at a constant and
reasonable one eighth (1/8) looping radius. All lines within the figure should
be equal in length. All part loops within the figure should be of identical radii.
The 45-degree transitions in Family3.1 should have a constant radius and not a
sharp corner (Fig. 19). The basis for judging line length is the first line flown.
Refer to rule 7.1 for downgrades.
- The radius of all part loops in the figure are measured against the first part
loop flown in the maneuver. Thereafter, each part loop flown within the
maneuver that has a different radius than the first part loop flown receives a
one (1) pt deduction.
- Each part loop flown in the maneuver must have a constant radius. Each
variation of radius within a part loop receives a one (1) pt deduction.

Hey Curtis can I use this one HALF OF A DOWN SQUARE LOOP LINE that is the one in unlimited, sorry just could not help myself.

next time I see you.... expect bruising...........

Posted By Curtis Cozier on 23 Mar 2011 20:47
next time I see you.... expect bruising...........

I'll sell the tickets...

I think I hit a nerve Bill LOL. All joking aside Great Job Kent very well done.

Thanks for doing this for us!
I would like to verify the wording in the Sportsman Humpty....I don't believe you're going outbound, so wouldn't you need to make the 3/4 roll on the downline the same direction as the 2 of 8 on the upline so you will exit the same direction as you enter?

Looking at it again, I think the problem is with the previous maneuver, the spin, which is only a 1 turn. You wouldn't be looking at the belly, or going outbound

Posted By Jack Bowell on 23 Mar 2011 23:21
Thanks for doing this for us!
I would like to verify the wording in the Sportsman Humpty....I don't believe you're going outbound, so wouldn't you need to make the 3/4 roll on the downline the same direction as the 2 of 8 on the upline so you will exit the same direction as you enter?

Yes Jack....(If the Humpty is done going out over the top) the 3/4 roll on the down line will need to be left instead of Right to be in the proper position to continue with the sequence. Bill will have to change the .PDF file with the correction.
Wayne

Good morning,

I made some directional corrections and added the beginning statement.

Good Morning Judges.
Pilots name is ???????
Pilot will be flying from Left to Right

Thanks to those paying close attention and found the errors. I left these so you as a pilot can edit them to your liking or correct any errors in which I have made.

not responsible for any scores you receive for maneuvers flown to these write ups.

Kp

I have edited the PDF files to reflect the suggestions up to this point and also added the Intermediate PDF. I have not proof read any of these.

However, Kent was essentially correct with the "see the belly" statement, which I have removed to help reduce confusion.

You should not be doing a spin directly in front of you, it is much easier and the judges have an easier time seeing it break, if it is done to one side and going away from you, so he was correct, you will see the belly during the line up to the break and once again, after one full turn.

All the current sequences Kent has written up to this point are in my original post and also have been added to the IMAC Lite and IMAC HD apps.(Apple only, version 1.8, version 1.7 is current in review and should be released later this week)

Kent also supplied me with his Score program write-up which is also in the Apps

Thanks Kent for doing these, I have given you the appropriate credit in the Apps

Nice job guys. Thanks for the efforts.

Advanced

Good Morning Judges!
Pilots name is??????
Pilot will be flying from left to right.

Pilot Ready?

Judges Ready?

In The Box!

First Maneuver, From Inverted,

Goldfish, Push to a Forty-Five Upline, Center a Quarter Roll, Opposite One and One Quarter Roll to Inverted, Then Pull Three Quarter Loop Around to a Forty-Five Upline, Center a One and One Half Positive Snap to Inverted, Pull to an Inverted Exit, Next

From Inverted,

Spilt Ess, One and One Half Rolls to Upright, Push Half Outside Loop with an One and One Half Negative Snap to Upright on Exit, Next

From Upright,

Hammer Head, Pull Vertical, Center a Three of a Four Point Roll Left (see canopy), Hammer, Establish Downline then Center One and One Quarter Roll Left, Pull to an Upright Exit, Next

From Upright,

Two Hundred and Seventy Degree Rolling Turn with Three Rolls to the Inside, Exit Cross Box, Next

(By carrying the rolling turn out/exiting inbound)

From Upright,

Humpty Bump, Pull to a Vertical Upline, Center One Half Roll, Opposite Positive Snap, Push Half Outside Loop Over the Top to a Vertical Downline, Center Three Quarter Negative Snap Left, Push to an Inverted Exit, Next

From Inverted,

Half Reverse Cuban, Push to a Forty-Five Upline, Center a One and One Half Negative snap to Upright, Push a Five-Eighths Loop Around with an Eight Point Roll on Exit, Next

From Inverted,

Teardrop, Push to a Vertical Upline, Center Three Quarter Positive Snap, opposite Three Quarter Roll, Pull a Five –Eighths Loop Around to a Forty-Five Downline, Center a Full Roll, Pull to an upright Exit. Next

From Upright,

Inside/Outside Loop, Pull Half Inside Loop Center a Positive Snap Opposite Half Roll Over the Top, Push outside Loop Around to an Inverted Exit, Next

From Inverted,

Vertical Upline,(carry high to setup for a spin) Push to a Vertical Upline, Center Two of a Four Point Roll, Opposite Full Roll, Pull to an Inverted Exit, Next

From Inverted,

One and Three Quarter Negative Spin/Same Direction Three Quarter Roll, Wait for the Stall, When Stalled, Execute One and Three Quarter Turn Spin in Either Direction, Establish Downline and Then Execute a Three Quarter Roll Same Direction, Push to Inverted Exit.

End of Sequence.

Someone smoke that one over while I work on the Unlimited sequence;-)

Kp

Converted...(I can't add it to the list above do to a per post size restriction)

Damn Kent, when do you sleep

Posted By Gil R. Major on 24 Mar 2011 21:18
Damn Kent, when do you sleep

Probably at work

Unlimited

Good Morning Judges!
Pilots name is??????
Pilot will be flying from left to right.

Pilot Ready?
Judges Ready?

In The Box!

First Maneuver, From Upright

Half Reverse Cuban, Pull to a Forty-Five Upline, Center a Four Point Roll, Push Five-Eighths Loop Around, One Half Negative, Opposite One and One Half Positive Snap to Inverted Exit, Next

From Inverted

Reverse Sharks Tooth, Push to a Forty-Five Upline, One Quarter Roll, Same Direction Three Quarter Positive Snap to Inverted, Pull to a Vertical Downline, Center One and One Half Rolls, Push to and Inverted Exit, Next

From Inverted

Hammer Head, Push to a Vertical Upline, Center One Quarter Roll Right, Opposite One and One Half Positive Snap (see canopy) Hammer, Establish Downline then, Center Thee Quarter Roll right, Pull to an Upright Exit, Next

From Upright

Figure N, Pull to a Vertical Upline, Center One Full Roll, Pull to an Inverted Forty-Five Downline, Center One Negative Snap, Opposite One Half Roll to Upright, Pull to a Vertical Upline, Center One and One Quarter Roll Right, Pull to an Inverted Exit Cross Box Outbound, Next

From Inverted

Vertical Downline, Pull to a Vertical Downline, Center One Full Roll, Opposite Negative Snap Pull to an Upright Exit Cross Box Inbound, Next

From Upright

Cross Box Humpty Bump, Pull Vertical, Center One and One Quarter Negative Snap Right, Pull Half Inside Loop Over the Top to a Vertical Downline, Center One Quarter Roll Right, Opposite One and One Quarter Roll, Pull to an Upright Exit, Next

From Upright

Three Hundred and Sixty Degree Rolling Turn, One Roll In and One Roll Out, Exit Upright, Next

From Upright

Half Cuban, Two of a Four Point Roll to Inverted on Entry, Push Five-Eighths Loop to an Upright Forty-Five Downline, Center Three of a Four Point Roll, Same Direction One and Three Quarter Positive Snap to Inverted, Push to an Inverted Exit, Next

From Inverted

Forty-Five Degree Upline, (finish high for a spin) Push to a Forty-Five Degree Upline, Center One Positive Snap from Inverted, Opposite Four of an Eight Point Roll to Upright, Pull One Hundred and Thirty-Five Degrees to an Inverted Exit, Next

From Inverted

One and Three Quarter Negative Spin Opposite Three Quarter Roll Down Teardrop, Wait for Stall, Then Spin Left One and Three Quarter Turns, (see belly) Establish Downline the Execute Three Quarter Roll Right, Pull Five-Eighths Loop Around to a Inverted Forty-Five, Center Half Roll Opposite Positive Snap to Upright, Pull One Hundred and Thirty-Five Degrees to an Inverted Exit.

End of Sequence.

Not responsible for this one! Wow! Let me know if it's a keeper. Now, time for another cold one!

Kp

Posted By Bill James on 24 Mar 2011 21:19

Posted By Gil R. Major on 24 Mar 2011 21:18
Damn Kent, when do you sleep

Probably at work

Work, Church and Home! That's all I have time for anymore.

Kent you forgot one thing in you time allotment sequence.....THINK FOR MARK.....YOU KNOW SPOCK-ISM...A MIND MELD......HEHEHEHEHEHEHE POPS..thanks for the help with the florida school-in....

Posted By Kent Porter on 24 Mar 2011 22:35
Not responsible for this one! Wow! Let me know if it's a keeper. Now, time for another cold one!

Kp

Kent,
You zeroed the second manuever! Should be 3/4 positve snap.

see you soon,
John

Hey Kent, I no spiki no inglich can you translate them in SPANLKISH.

Fly Primo Fly

Thanks John, Fixed it.

Kp

Posted By Primo Rivera on 25 Mar 2011 13:36
Hey Kent, I no spiki no inglich can you translate them in SPANLKISH.

Only after the Florida Seminar!

Bill, do we have a PDF file on the revised "unlimited"?

Posted By Steve Stanton on 29 Mar 2011 11:13
Bill, do we have a PDF file on the revised "unlimited"?

Steve,

As far as I know, I did not re-read the PDF) the one on the first page, about 10 or so posts down, is the revised one

Kent, You ROCK!! I want to thank you for taking the time to write out these call sheets! With my 11 year old son and I both competing we will now both be on the same page!

…One question. Since this is our first year in Sportsman, are the unknowns the same maneuvers just placed in different sequences??

Thanks again!

Actually, the unknowns are a completely different set of maneuver.

Thanks for the reply Bill