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25 Sep 2010 13:33  
May be early,but any news on the 2011 sequences being released?
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Posted By David Hargrove on 25 Sep 2010 13:33
May be early,but any news on the 2011 sequences being released?

Patience grasshopper.... There is a LOT of work involved & my Team is human.... Well....some members may not believe so...but, nevertheless.... we are working on them.
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25 Sep 2010 17:06  
I do have some patience. When I order something in the morning I wait until the afternoon mail run to see if it is there.
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25 Sep 2010 17:25  
Hi there Dave.... Sounds as if you really want to start off 2011 as soon as possible...

I can give you a hint:
There will be NO tailslides in the Knowns!
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Yes there is,,,,,,,,,, there is one in ever class,,,,,,,, its called a Hammer head. There will be a lot of tailslides done in place of the hammer and they should all get zeroed !
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Posted By Wayne Matthews on 25 Sep 2010 17:25
Hi there Dave.... Sounds as if you really want to start off 2011 as soon as possible...

I can give you a hint:
There will be NO tailslides in the Knowns!
Wayne

Well was just wondering when they would be released. I am planning on two more contests before the end of the year. I am moving up to intermediate for 2011 and need as much time as I can get before the Superstition Challange in Apache Junction coming up in January.
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26 Sep 2010 20:02  
I had a good tail slide at Triple Tree.

It did earn me a zero.
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14 Oct 2010 10:43  
Here are some video links to the 2011 BASIC, SPORTSMAN & INTERMEDIATE IMAC Sequences.... These were done by our IMAC friends over in SWEDEN for us (Peter Schmidt & Tim Larsson).

BASIC 2011 www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6SwF4KdZbE...embedded#!

SPORTSMAN 2011 www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSK9zpDDz0Y...r_embedded

INTERMEDIATE 2011 www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqr9B5ODsXk...r_embedded

THANKS to both of you guys over there for doing this.
Best regards to all in Sewden & Norway.
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27 Oct 2010 9:25  
Yes....Dave needs all the help he can get since he was booted out of sportsman....:-). Nothing but love for you Dave!! Now get practicing!!
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Posted By Rob Walden on 27 Oct 2010 9:25
Yes....Dave needs all the help he can get since he was booted out of sportsman....:-). Nothing but love for you Dave!! Now get practicing!!

You know I am not leaving Intermediate until you move up.
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27 Oct 2010 17:47  
Dave I know the feeling man... after getting my first taste of Advanced the other weekend I want to move back down!!! LOL!!!!
Ya I think I'm gonna need the 200!!!!!!
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Posted By Michael Bacosa on 27 Oct 2010 17:47
Dave I know the feeling man... after getting my first taste of Advanced the other weekend I want to move back down!!! LOL!!!!


Advanced scares me DA-200 ordered and after I get Randy's done I will get mine finished. Can't wait to start flying the 2011 sequence with it.
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28 Oct 2010 19:29  
Thats awesome Dave!!! You are going to love it!!!
Ya I think I'm gonna need the 200!!!!!!
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Posted By Michael Bacosa on 28 Oct 2010 19:29
Thats awesome Dave!!! You are going to love it!!!


Picked it up today. Too cool
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30 Oct 2010 17:39  
A$$HOLE!!! :-)
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30 Oct 2010 21:10  
Your next Rob and don't pull that DLE shit on us either!!!! Jesus!!!
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Posted By Rob Walden on 30 Oct 2010 17:39
A$$HOLE!!! :-)


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Posted By Michael Bacosa on 30 Oct 2010 21:10
Your next Rob and don't pull that DLE shit on us either!!!! Jesus!!!



Is there a problem with DLE??
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YA it's not a DA!!
Ya I think I'm gonna need the 200!!!!!!
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01 Nov 2010 7:00  
That certainly isn't a problem. The 2 DA's I have in the trailer right now both have problems that I once again have to spend money on to ship back to Arizona.

The 2 DLE's I have are absolutely flawless brute powerhouses.

You might consider your comments before making such a broad sweeping statement. I like my engines and you like yours. No need for this 2nd grade nonsense.

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01 Nov 2010 9:38  
In the box Judges. Oh oh that's a Zero.
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Posted By KnowCrashes on 01 Nov 2010 7:00
That certainly isn't a problem. The 2 DA's I have in the trailer right now both have problems that I once again have to spend money on to ship back to Arizona.

The 2 DLE's I have are absolutely flawless brute powerhouses.

You might consider your comments before making such a broad sweeping statement. I like my engines and you like yours. No need for this 2nd grade nonsense.



I have two DA 200s and two DA 150s. All four run
flawless and DA backs them 100% and service is better than
dle by a long shot. I personally wouldn't use, let alone
spend money on some asian knock off. Iv'e seen dle's have
more than they're share of problems so I can only hope your
experience with them is as equally colorful!!!
Until then, take your dle's, wrap yourself up in a
chinese flag and go take a plunge.( leave my friends alone!)
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02 Nov 2010 1:02  
Entering from the right Judges, WOW! that was a 10
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02 Nov 2010 5:38  
OK Guys... lets calm down.... We have enough on our hands right now in finishing up the year 2010 of competition, Florence in the SW & The SE Regionals in FL this weekend.

2011 sequences are already out, which is the subject of this thread..... so lets continue with what's important...& that is to enjoy our sport of Scale Aerobatics & develop our skills.

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Posted By Randy Wegner on 01 Nov 2010 23:30

Posted By KnowCrashes on 01 Nov 2010 7:00
That certainly isn't a problem. The 2 DA's I have in the trailer right now both have problems that I once again have to spend money on to ship back to Arizona.

The 2 DLE's I have are absolutely flawless brute powerhouses.

You might consider your comments before making such a broad sweeping statement. I like my engines and you like yours. No need for this 2nd grade nonsense.



I have two DA 200s and two DA 150s. All four run
flawless and DA backs them 100% and service is better than
dle by a long shot. I personally wouldn't use, let alone
spend money on some asian knock off. Iv'e seen dle's have
more than they're share of problems so I can only hope your
experience with them is as equally colorful!!!
Until then, take your dle's, wrap yourself up in a
chinese flag and go take a plunge.( leave my friends alone!)



Like I said, no need for this second grade childish nonsense. Your comments are a perfect illustration of this.

I'm glad you like your DA engines. Your initial comment was uncalled for and immature. As far as Chinese products go, better check just about everything in your home and then reevaluate your statement.
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02 Nov 2010 12:20  
Oh, just wondering, how can you comment on the service of DLE?? Do you own one and have you needed service? Just curious as to your credentials to make this comment.

I on the otherhand can comment on both DA and DLE as I own BOTH. If you would like first hand information, just ask and I can tell you about both.
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02 Nov 2010 12:23  
Wayne,

Thank you for your direction on this thread. I agree, I should have kept to the subject matter. This discussion would be better suited for Flying Giants or other places. We all are just having fun playing with out toy airplanes and working on skills improvements.
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02 Nov 2010 13:58  
KnowCrashes.....No offense man!!! I just enjoy some friendly ribbing now and again. I have nothing against DLE or any engine manufacturer. I could care less who uses what as long as we have fun doing what we are supposed to be doing and this practicing the 2011 sequence!! What do think of 2011 Sportsman? I have been helping a couple of of our guys look at it and it flows really nice. I am struggling with the Advanced sequence but hopefully I will figure it out.
Ya I think I'm gonna need the 200!!!!!!
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02 Nov 2010 17:19  
None taken, no need for this kind of crap here. Plenty of it elsewhere.

BTW I like the Sportsman layout for next year. Should be interesting.... especially #10 for some peeps......
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02 Nov 2010 17:43  
Agreed! So what airframe are you going with in 2011. I just finished up my Dalton ML with the 200. Now I don't have any excuses to fall back on anymore!!



Posted By KnowCrashes on 02 Nov 2010 17:19
None taken, no need for this kind of crap here. Plenty of it elsewhere.

BTW I like the Sportsman layout for next year. Should be interesting.... especially #10 for some peeps......



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02 Nov 2010 18:38  
40cent Pilot 260.

It's helping me get to the wood....
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Posted By KnowCrashes on 02 Nov 2010 17:19
None taken, no need for this kind of crap here. Plenty of it elsewhere.

BTW I like the Sportsman layout for next year. Should be interesting.... especially #10 for some peeps......

I agree, its better to get back on track and
my earlier comments directed at you were uncalled for,
immature and better left unsaid. May I respectfully suggest
that future entries you make are without the 2nd grade labels
directed at others on this line, not to mention still others
you have posted for which I will refrain from attaching any
similarly negative labels. I too don't care about the choices
in engines etc. that others make, but I do think that if we
were both honest, both of us could have handled all of this
with much more care, as I intend to do in the future.
Oh, and sorry about the "Plunge" comment.....its really
tough for me to type nice when all I see is red......peace!
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02 Nov 2010 20:12  
THANKS Guys.... I really appreciate how it all worked out.

Some like Yaks....some like Extras.... JR & Futaba...etc...
The choices are up to the pilots.

Where it REALLY matters is on the line in front of the judges when our knees are knocking, our mouths are dry & the heart is pumping with adrenalin all over!!

Believe me... I KNOW the feeling!!
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02 Nov 2010 22:29  
I bit my tongue until I had time to learn and fly it.

The Unlimited sequence is a huge step backwards.

We should be heading towards more Geometry with less snaps. Our class is already too heavily decided on snaps, now we have ten snaps in a ten maneuver sequence. 11 in the alternate.

The snap sequence in the first maneuver is horrible. The "down" snaps and gotcha maneuvers are better left in the unknowns.

"that being said!". I appreciate all the work from the sequence committee. I don't envy their job one bit. In general, good work on the new knowns.
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Posted By KnowCrashes on 01 Nov 2010 7:00
That certainly isn't a problem. The 2 DA's I have in the trailer right now both have problems that I once again have to spend money on to ship back to Arizona.

The 2 DLE's I have are absolutely flawless brute powerhouses.

You might consider your comments before making such a broad sweeping statement. I like my engines and you like yours. No need for this 2nd grade nonsense.




You might want to consider the fact that you are interjecting in a conversation between friends that you were not invited too!! We should be able to give each other crap about any engines we want without someone not part of the conversation coming in and starting an argument.
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03 Nov 2010 9:57  
Sorry friend. No argument here. Just asked a simple question. Let it die.
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Posted By Daniel Rathbun on 02 Nov 2010 22:29
I bit my tongue until I had time to learn and fly it.

The Unlimited sequence is a huge step backwards.

We should be heading towards more Geometry with less snaps. Our class is already too heavily decided on snaps, now we have ten snaps in a ten maneuver sequence. 11 in the alternate.

The snap sequence in the first maneuver is horrible. The "down" snaps and gotcha maneuvers are better left in the unknowns.

"that being said!". I appreciate all the work from the sequence committee. I don't envy their job one bit. In general, good work on the new knowns.



Hey Dan!

I would like to comment on this one. First - I agree with you, the Unlimited sequence looks great and is fun to fly! But I disagree with the 'step backwards'.

First - as an Unlimited pilot, or any class pilot, you need to accept that you are going to miss snaps - period. How much you miss them by is another topic, lol. I do not think a contest is going to be decided by who hit all their snaps or not. Its just as easy to loose points on matching radius', centering manuevers, keeping roll rates the same, etc., etc.

I once heard froma a very well known Unlimited pilot the way he practices for a major event...that he doesnt practice snaps until his hands bleeds, because he knows hes going to miss them anyway during the contest. Instaead, he concentrates on all the other criteria...once that is 100% - then he practices snaps.

I for one like the new sequence...I m looking forward to it, challenging and makes you want to get out and practice it.

With that being said - just enjoy the time being spent flying the plane, and when you do hit that snap - thats just icing on the cake!

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Posted By KnowCrashes on 02 Nov 2010 18:38
40cent Pilot 260.

It's helping me get to the wood....

Something we agree on.....the pilot 40% 260 is a
preety good plane. It will never be a Dalton or Carden
but with 9157 servos,12x and (of course a DA150) on greeves,
my son took 2nd out of 18 in his first contest. Its been
a great bird now that all the chinks are worked out.
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03 Nov 2010 18:15  
So whats your excuse Big Weg. You were flying the same plane and you didn't get 2nd in your class???!!! LOL!!!!!!!

KnowsCrashes...You got a good bird there man. The next step is to burn alot of fuel. Did you fly basic this year and then move to Sportsman in 2011?
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Posted By Michael Bacosa on 03 Nov 2010 18:15
So whats your excuse Big Weg. You were flying the same plane and you didn't get 2nd in your class???!!! LOL!!!!!!!

KnowsCrashes...You got a good bird there man. The next step is to burn alot of fuel. Did you fly basic this year and then move to Sportsman in 2011?


Don't forget how well the Hemple Yak flew. As long as we are rubbing it in. Oh and your rt wing is now done Big Weg.
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I've got around 60-70 gallons thru it. It's a start.....
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Posted By Michael Bacosa on 03 Nov 2010 18:15
So whats your excuse Big Weg. You were flying the same plane and you didn't get 2nd in your class???!!! LOL!!!!!!!

KnowsCrashes...You got a good bird there man. The next step is to burn alot of fuel. Did you fly basic this year and then move to Sportsman in 2011?

Actually, I was flying my Pilot 40% 300 and right now
it just sucks. Having borrowed my son's 260, I climbed up
a couple spots at Prado on day two. I did get 4th in tucson
in intermediate. By the way Mr. LOL.....what place did you
get w/ your Dalton at prado???? Sorry...I know that hurt...
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04 Nov 2010 9:58  
I think if anyone can survive the razzing of this crowd. They could survive just about anything. Good to have you guys as friends.
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I second that. Nothing but love from all of our fellow SW flyers. Any Hooters in Florence??.....:-o........Baco??.....BAdams??......LOLOL!!!!
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Posted By Dave Hargrove on 04 Nov 2010 9:58
I think if anyone can survive the razzing of this crowd. They could survive just about anything. Good to have you guys as friends.

Friends????....who said we were friends?
Juuuuuuuuuuuust Kidding!
And Rob, the odds of find a hooters in florence is .
Maybe we could sub for Jason and his spandex skirt and
just meet at a diner there......
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05 Nov 2010 13:45  
Big Weg.....my goal was not to be last and not get a zero in my unknown and I suceeded in both. My next goal is to utterly destroy you one day when you move Advanced!!!LOL!!!! Just kidding. AND....lets stay away from whole Jason in spandex visual. It's bad enough I had to see Mr. Adams with his shirt off in Prado!!!LOL!!!
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Ya, I recall the Bill Adams "shirt off" debacle. It made me so ill I couldn't eat for 3 days!!
Hey........a new weight loss idea.......( you got any pics of that?)
Oh and by the way, I'll be in paradise before I ever get
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The Florence IMAC contest is tomorrow and it looks good so far. They were talking about
how Attaway road over there was named after Tim Attaway. our s/w regional director.
I guess someone there recalls how Tim used to be a lady bug farmer on that road just north
of the bridge on the east side.....some 2300 acres that he kept covered in black mesh to
retain the billions of lady bugs he would sell to growers and retailers each year. But some nut
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retired in california were he now sells insecticides........and so the story goes....................
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09 Nov 2010 17:07  
They should throw in a tail slide in the unlimited known. Would you rather have that or snaps.
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Didn't tail slides go away because they were unpredictable to do and judge?
If not tail slides, maybe 16 pt rolling loops or knife to opposite knife snap and
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Hi Randy.... Tailslides are legal in the Unlimited class only. You will find them mainly in the Unknowns. The SE Regionals which were held this past weekend had 3 Unknowns. Two out of the three Unknowns had tailslides in them.
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09 Nov 2010 22:18  

Posted By Wayne Matthews on 09 Nov 2010 20:28
Hi Randy.... Tailslides are legal in the Unlimited class only. You will find them mainly in the Unknowns. The SE Regionals which were held this past weekend had 3 Unknowns. Two out of the three Unknowns had tailslides in them.
Wayne



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10 Nov 2010 6:25  
Kevin...I was told you cant teach an OLD GRAY DOG new tricks and.....Tricks are for Kids....pops
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10 Nov 2010 7:20  
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10 Nov 2010 7:27  

Posted By Kevin Garland on 09 Nov 2010 22:18

Posted By Wayne Matthews on 09 Nov 2010 20:28
Hi Randy.... Tailslides are legal in the Unlimited class only. You will find them mainly in the Unknowns. The SE Regionals which were held this past weekend had 3 Unknowns. Two out of the three Unknowns had tailslides in them.
Wayne



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Hey Kevin... I was actually working....so I had to miss the event. Our Librarians selected the Unknowns....

And believe me Bruce...Silver Fox has learned new tricks. Whether I can see the plane or not It's the new thingemazoo that you just program in the entire flight & press the GO button!!!
Wayne
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