Primo Rivera
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| 24 Jun 2010 22:28 |
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Well, I headed to the work shop. |
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Mark Mcclellan
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| 25 Jun 2010 11:24 |
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Yea yea Pops it is easy to talk smack when you don't fly yourself,,,,,,,, you have all the stuff you need to get out to the field and start flying ! Brian could teach you a few things,,,,,,,, but then again it is hard to teach an OLD Dog new tricks ! ;-) |
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| 25 Jun 2010 14:33 |
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Yes Mark you are correct..This old dog is just to lazy...I wont lie about that...The brain wants to but the assets wont get in gear...pops |
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Mark Mcclellan
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| 25 Jun 2010 14:41 |
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I hear ya ! Your not that old ! |
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Mark Mcclellan
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| 25 Jun 2010 14:42 |
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Dang Primo, I thought this was a build thread,,,,,,,,,, where have you been ? |
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| 25 Jun 2010 16:15 |
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NOT OLD>>>>LAZY |
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tl3
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| 25 Jun 2010 17:50 |
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random build tips cont: An attempt to save weight with a juice bottle fuel tank will reward you with additional weight savings when the foam disappears from you airplane. |
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| 25 Jun 2010 17:57 |
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Listening to too many armchair builders will not increase pick up time on all the little pieces when it goes KABOOM......Really fantastic job in building Primo..Truly a PRIMO JOB...POPS |
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Mark Mcclellan
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| 25 Jun 2010 19:03 |
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Hey Ty the same thing can happen when you use one of those red aluminum up grade caps on your Du bro tank and it pops out in flight ! Those caps are great if you cut a 1/16 inch off the lip so the cap can let the stopper go a little deeper into the tank. That way it swells up inside the tank and can not pop out if it only swells up in the hole in the tank it will pop out sooner or latter. Measure the distance on that cheep plastic cap that came with the tank and then check that aluminum one and you will see the problem. |
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Primo Rivera
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| 26 Jun 2010 21:02 |
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Posted By Mark Mcclellan on 25 Jun 2010 14:42 Dang Primo, I thought this was a build thread,,,,,,,,,, where have you been ? Changing diapers and trying to get some sleep. JK I'll be posting tonight some |
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Primo Rivera
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| 27 Jun 2010 0:34 |
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OK, this is what I did for the rudder servos, I just took meassurements from a JR 8711 servo and build a box using one of the vertical trusses as support, glued it in place with 3M DP-460 Epoxy. After that I trim off the sheeting, what I did here was using the 8 foot alminum angle just past the top and lower Longeron, I used this as a guide to cut the sheeting. |
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| PRIMO KABOOM!!!
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Primo Rivera
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| 27 Jun 2010 0:36 |
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| PRIMO KABOOM!!!
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Primo Rivera
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| 27 Jun 2010 0:54 |
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After cutting I took the fuse sides outside and sanded the sheeting flush with the frame. From here I used a pice of wax paper to outline the radius of the hard point for the leading edge of the stab and that's where I realised that I had made a mistake DAM!!!! I want to use two hard points on the root of the stab, I think you guys know what I mean by that, Well during the build I was suppost to add a second hard point just bellow the stab tube and I got ahead of myself, O well I should be able to add the hard point with no problems. |
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| PRIMO KABOOM!!!
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Primo Rivera
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| 27 Jun 2010 0:57 |
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| PRIMO KABOOM!!!
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Primo Rivera
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| 27 Jun 2010 0:59 |
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| PRIMO KABOOM!!!
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Primo Rivera
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| 27 Jun 2010 1:08 |
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What you see on the second picture there is a spray paint cap, I just marked two points on the hard point and just traced it with a pencil then went to town with my belt sander A MUST HAVE!!!!. Now on the third picture you can see my mistake DAM again!!!!! I think what I'm going to do is use a dremel and cut a area at the bottom of the stab support brace so that I can slide the hard point to place.
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Mark Mcclellan
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| 27 Jun 2010 16:19 |
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Hey Primo I was cleaning my shop and guess what I found,,,,,,, the instructions !!!!!! I'll scan them and e-mail them to you. |
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Jerry Hailey
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| 27 Jun 2010 17:59 |
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Instructions? He don't need no stinking instructions. |
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Mark Mcclellan
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| 28 Jun 2010 7:51 |
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Sent e-mail to you at work. You should be able to print it. |
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Primo Rivera
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| 29 Jun 2010 10:41 |
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Thanks Mark, Well I'm back at work so building is going to be slow from now, hope to at least work on it for an hour every day and that's if the baby is sleeping. |
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Mark Mcclellan
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| 29 Jun 2010 10:58 |
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Good luck with that ! |
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Primo Rivera
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| 02 Jul 2010 8:50 |
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Hey guys I made some small progress so here it goes. I made some corner gussets out of 3/8 aircraft ply and glued them in place, this are the hardpoints for the hatch. |
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| PRIMO KABOOM!!!
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Primo Rivera
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| 02 Jul 2010 8:55 |
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| PRIMO KABOOM!!!
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Primo Rivera
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| 02 Jul 2010 9:04 |
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You can see here where I made a template from a pice of balsa to help me locate the second hard point just below the satb tube, I will also use it to make the stab end cap. I could not help myself I had to just fit one side of the fuse to the motor box, I call this visual progress. Man I'm having a blast building this thing. |
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| PRIMO KABOOM!!!
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Primo Rivera
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| 02 Jul 2010 9:06 |
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Oh I don't have any pics on building the box but when I get ready to glue the fuse sides I'll take time to explain how I did it. |
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| PRIMO KABOOM!!!
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Primo Rivera
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| 02 Jul 2010 9:09 |
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A kiss to you guys from Baby Adrain |
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| PRIMO KABOOM!!!
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Mark Mcclellan
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| 02 Jul 2010 9:49 |
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Kool !!!! |
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Kent Porter
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| 02 Jul 2010 12:21 |
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You can sure tell that's Jacobs bother! Handsome! |
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josh bunn
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| 02 Jul 2010 14:40 |
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Its a good thing he does not look like Primo. LOL |
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Primo Rivera
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| 02 Jul 2010 14:52 |
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Posted By josh bunn on 02 Jul 2010 14:40 Its a good thing he does not look like Primo. LOL Yea no kidding!!!LOL |
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Tony Gorgone
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| 07 Jul 2010 23:11 |
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looking good primo. never saw your answer about the wing tube sockets not lining up. what are you doing about this? tony |
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Primo Rivera
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| 08 Jul 2010 1:27 |
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Thanks Tony, All I had to do with that was just turn one over, the holes are not in center. I'll be posting some pics today. |
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Primo Rivera
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| 08 Jul 2010 8:29 |
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Ok guys slow go but I got some things done last night, and it looks like the next step is to square the fues sides to the engine box and make sure the wing tube and stab tube are level and square to each other. The engine box was so easy to put together, the way Mark design it is idiot proof. I had it all put together without any clamps just to check it and it was dead square verticaly and horizontaly. On the pics you are going to see the Hysol glue that I use to reinforce the areas where the wood is not touching each other, I highly recomend this stuff. OK enough typing. |
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| PRIMO KABOOM!!!
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Primo Rivera
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| 08 Jul 2010 8:31 |
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| PRIMO KABOOM!!!
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Primo Rivera
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| 08 Jul 2010 8:32 |
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| PRIMO KABOOM!!!
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Primo Rivera
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| 08 Jul 2010 8:34 |
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The 9462 take 24hours to cure The E20NS just 20 minutes to set |
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| PRIMO KABOOM!!!
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Primo Rivera
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| 08 Jul 2010 8:38 |
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DAM out of wax paper NOTE TO SELF !!!! Next trip to Wall Mart Wax paper 12pack of Coronas actually 2 12packs |
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| PRIMO KABOOM!!!
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Primo Rivera
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| 08 Jul 2010 9:03 |
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Well I managed to have just enough wax paper to be able to set the engine box over the plans and located in place using a clamp to keep it from moving around and a battery on the landing gear plate to hold it flat against the table. Next was glue the F2 formers in place, a perfect fit. |
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| PRIMO KABOOM!!!
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Primo Rivera
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| 08 Jul 2010 9:04 |
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| PRIMO KABOOM!!!
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Jerry Hailey
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| 08 Jul 2010 18:16 |
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Interesting choice of epoxy for gap filler. The E020NS is good stuff, you just don’t see that in your local hobby shop. What did you use for bonding the wood joints around the motor box?
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Primo Rivera
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| 08 Jul 2010 21:34 |
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You can get it thru McMaster, and yes this stuff is very strong. I used 3M Scotch-Weld Epoxy DP46. |
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AKA ROLLERMAN
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Jerry Hailey
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| 09 Jul 2010 19:10 |
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Another industrial epoxy. hum? I am totally impressed with your decision to use industrial epoxy. I have used Vantico Araldite. This stuff is very resistant to gasoline.
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Mark Mcclellan
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| 10 Jul 2010 17:48 |
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Looking good Primo !!!! Sure is good to see that kit getting glued together ! I kept saying I was going to do that but never got around to it ! |
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Tony Gorgone
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| 12 Jul 2010 23:38 |
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ok primo, you had the weekend. where are the new pics?? tony |
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Mark Mcclellan
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| 13 Jul 2010 7:37 |
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He took Terry out to the flying field where he talked Terry into Crashing his Carden !!!! Its the Roller Baby !!!!! Terry always remember this rule when your palne is upside down,,,,,,,,,, down is up and up is expensive !!!!!!!!!!!!! Terry sorry to hear about your plane ! |
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tl3
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| 13 Jul 2010 9:40 |
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Posted By Tony Gorgone on 12 Jul 2010 23:38 ok primo, you had the weekend. where are the new pics?? tony this from someone who took 3 1/2 years to not get the tape off the boxes of his kit.  |
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Primo Rivera
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| 13 Jul 2010 10:33 |
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He got you there Tony!!!!! OK little progress but at least I’m working on it. Well I thought I was ready to start gluing the fuse sides to the motor box but I don’t have the hard points in place for the wings so I had to back up a little. The hard points are not 3/8 thick like the vertical trusses but you have the option to make some, I had some aircraft grade 1/8in ply so I cut some spacers to make up the difference. I will epoxy them together. At this time I’m going to wait to glue them in place until I get ready to set the incidence, later on the build I will explain how I’m doing that much later. I’ll have to say those of you who pay to have this planes done are getting your money’s worth, I use to think man that is expensive the price of the kit, yeah right? Well now I know LOL Don’t get me wrong I’m not complaining I’m loving it and I will build another one. |
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Primo Rivera
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| 13 Jul 2010 10:35 |
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| PRIMO KABOOM!!!
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ALMOST FLYING IN ADVANCE!!!! |
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Primo Rivera
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| PRIMO KABOOM!!!
AKA ROLLERMAN
ALMOST FLYING IN ADVANCE!!!! |
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